A Date Which Will Live in Infamy

Crossposted from http://paranoidpyro8503.blogspot.com/2009/12/date-which-will-live-in-infamy.html

Mr. Vice President, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Senate, and of the House of Representatives:

Two Kinds of People: Builders and Plunderers

BS”D

Posted by Ellie Katz

For more information, send email to rebuild.ey@gmail.com.

MK Michael Ben-Ari has come up with yet another brilliant idea, especially prescient in light of current tragic trends among some sectors of Israeli society — to join the plunderers. The JNF has violated our trust by donating funds intended to build Jewish communities to our sworn enemies, the Arabs of Fatah aka the PLO, aka the PA, headed by Abu Mazen (his war name) aka Mahmoud Abbas.

The brilliant idea is a replacement fund who’s purpose will be to  rebuild the homes which the Israeli government (gone mad) has destroyed. Our pushke is now thus dedicated.

New ‘JNF’ to Help Jews Rebuild Destroyed Homes

article by Hillel Fendel

(IsraelNN.com) An alternative Jewish National Fund? Land of Israel supporters seek to establish a fund, based on nickels and dimes – and more – of contributors around the world, to ensure that Jews whose homes are destroyed by security forces be able to build another one.

The fund is to be specifically for homes in Judea and Samaria, and will allow young families to invest their savings confidently, knowing that even if their home is deemed illegal or in violation of the construction freeze, they will be able to rebuild.

“This fund has an important place and function specifically at these times,” says MK Prof. Michael Ben-Ari (National Union party) one of the organizers of the initiative.

Click here to read more

From Glezele Vayne - Formerly “Schmoozing with Elya & Ellie Katz”

Fools Who Ride Tigers

BS”D

In light of my last, very concerned post, I thought it a good idea to post this article, also found at Israel National News. It does my heart good to see that the Jews of Judea and Samaria are recognized as the true patriots, the salt of the earth, that they, in fact are.

On the other hand, the words I have emphasized highlight concerns raised in my earlier point. There is a deliberate effort to vilify the Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria, in the words of retired Lt. Col. Danny Baz, and make them the “new enemy”.

There can be none of that. Such a strategy will not accomplish the goals of those who are behind it. The damage will be far more reaching than they can imagine, and will harm everyone, their own families included. By defaming the Jewish residents of Judea and Samaria, these people cast aspersions on themselves as well. It’s like trying to “only” poison one’s heart.

‘Settlers Don’t Know How Much People Love Them’

by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

(IsraelNN.com) A former Navy and Air Force officer, who also is a resident of the wealthy and predominantly secular city of Herzliya near Tel Aviv, has broken the image of secular anti-settler Jews.” In an interview with Arutz 7, retired Lt. Col. Danny Baz called settlers “modern Zionists.”

Baz’s comments came one month after he wrote an extremely harsh letter to the Shomron Batallion commander who had ordered his troops not to accept the traditional invitation to eat a Sabbath meal with residents of Judea and Samaria. The order has since been rescinded after an outcry from a wide array of people, including Baz, who also is an established author.

Settlers do not know how much the People of Israel love them.” Baz stated. He called them “modern Zionists…and our hope for tomorrow.”In an impassioned letter to Shomron Brigade commander Colonel Itzik Bar last month, Baz accused him of turning settlers into a “new enemy”and told him that “[settlers] are an honored part of the defense system of the State of Israel…. They are a strategic non-conventional weapon of Israel.

Click here to continue reading

From Glezele Vayne – formerly “Schmoozing with Elya & Ellie Katz”

Until I figure out this problem with my internet or move you can follow me on twitter

For some reason posting on this page is verry verry slow. I am going to try out posting the links I find interesting on Twitter, You can follow me there.

I am just going to be posting links that I came across and found interesting like http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html

Sorry for the problems. Hopefully I will be back soon.

A story of Crazy Leftist attacking on Thanksgiving Part 2

I was sent another story. To read the last one read part one . This is a sad but interesting story IMHO.

“Prior to the Thanksgiving trip, I was given a warning from my uncle that conversations should be limited in political scope. He did not want things getting out of control since a few people at the table would be likely to get their hackles up over some issues.

I Smell a Pogrom

BS”D

Lo aleinu.

I’ve read about them for 30+ years. We’ve all watched the Hollywood version on “Fiddler on a Roof”. It made me wonder what the real thing looked like, felt like. The hatred and insanity of one always horrified me, mystified me.

Why? Why do people throw innocent, peaceful families out of their homes, off their land? How do they rationalize their cruelty?

The other night, I was chatting with someone in the Israeli military. I will not give any more details than that. He expressed utter disdain for any IDF soldier who would “refuse an order”, telling me that doing such is traitorous, breaks down military order, that he would never be able to trust a soldier to watch his back once they even expressed via a banner, that he would not throw Jews out of their homes if ordered to do so. He then said that the “settlers” were occupying Arab land. He doubted a religious soldier would protect him anyway, as according to him, the Shulchan Aruch views him as a “kufr”….Arabic for “infidel” not worthy of basic human rights. As if halacha is in any way comparable to sharia.

I expressed my shock and disgust at his views. He then softened a bit and said that in 20 years, the Arabs would run out of oil, and then the IDF would chase them all to the Jordanian hills and the world would not take notice, presumably because no one would need them any longer. No oil for us, no care for you.

I got an inside view of the type of lies the military leaders (secular) feed their soldiers in order to drive a deeper wedge between the religious and secular of Israel, and more importantly, between the Jews of Judea and Samaria and the average Israeli living behind the green lines. The post-Zionist and anti-Zionist leaders in Israel are conducting a propaganda war against Jewish villagers, especially religious Jewish villagers. They are abusing and twisting the rulings of halacha the same way the antisemites do. No wonder these men and women who throw Jews out of their homes can rationalize their brutality, their robot-like cold-heartedness.

While our religious youth are being taught to love all Jews regardless, the secular Israeli is learning their religious brethren could never, would never, do so.

This is a war between “ahavat sinam” vs “sinat chinam”. The latter lost us our Temple and our Commonwealth. With the help of HKB”H, the former will win both back again.

Then, the old horror moving “The Invasion of the Pod People” came to mind.

Police Violence in Kedumim over Freeze Protest

IsraelNN.com by Hillel Fendel

Policemen, against acceptable rules of conduct, manhandled girls and others protesting the building freeze at Kedumim on Sunday.

After a Sabbath break, the anti-freeze battles continued and another mayor was physically beaten. Residents of Kedumim, one of the most veteran communities in Samaria, came out in droves on Sunday morning to block Civil Administration officials from distributing stop-work orders on building projects in the town.

The inspectors were accompanied by special Yassam unit police officers, who reportedly used strong violence to disperse the protestors. The Yassamnikim hit the town’s mayor, Chananel Durani, and his deputy, eyewitnesses say, and threw young girls on the street, as seen on the video above.

Click here to continue

From Glezele Vayne – formerly “Schmoozing with Elya & Ellie Katz”

Those Blue Lodge Antisemites Again: Thread Title – “Ahmedinijad’s Alleged Inflammatory Comments”

BS”D

More on my time at Liberty Forest (RonPaulForums.com). Thanks goes to Rodan of The Blogmocracy for coining the perfect term for what goes on at Liberty Forest, and at the John Birch Society according to some former chapter leaders (See my earlier post Blue Lodge Antisemites). Crypto-antisemitism. Useful term, that.

Palestinian Woman Stabs Israeli Hospital Security

BS”D

Hat Tip: Tamar Yonah of Israel National Radio

From Glezele Vayne – Formerly “Schmoozing with Elya & Ellie Katz”

The Jewish National Fund Betrays Donors

BS”D

Anyone who has been putting their money into those JNF pushkas needs to reconsider. I suggest calling the JNF to express your outrage over the facts of the following story. Then, donate to an organization that you know for a fact puts your hard-earned money towards genuine Zionist endeavors. I have three suggestions, for starters. Always check out any charitable organizations.

• Israel Land Fund*
• Free Jonathon Pollard*
• Friends of Gush Katif*
• Justice Now!*
• Stop the ISM
• Victims of Arab Terror*
  
• Women in Green
• Zionist Freedom Alliance
• Z Street

I have put an asterisk next to the causes/charities I would personally consider the most urgent, although they are all eminently worthy of our support. This list is not exhaustive, but merelyt a list of various causes I’ve found in the last several years. Whatever you do, if you are intending on contributing to an organization that is Torah oriented or Zionist oriented, please be careful and check them out. In light of the betrayal of the JNF, vigilance is the order of the day.

JNF Donates 3,000 Trees to Palestinian Authority

by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

(IsraelNN.com) A member of the board of the Jewish National Fund said “the system has gone haywire” after hearing reports that the venerable Zionist organization is donating 3,000 trees to the Palestinian Authority for a new city near Ramallah.

Maaleh Adumim Mayor Benny Kashriel, who also is a member of the JNF board, told Arutz 7 Monday morning he will bring up the issue with the JNF, which is considered a symbol of Zionism, particularly in the Diaspora where Jews have donated billions of dollars for planting trees and building the modern Jewish State.

Kashriel said the contribution to the PA is a grave step that was taken without any request for approval and without advance notice and reflects a “system that has gone haywire.”

Click here to read more

From Glezele Vayne - formerly “Schmoozing with Elya & Ellie Katz”

Netanyahu’s Building Freeze Due to Threats by Barack Obama

BS”D

According to political analyst Mordechai Taub, who was recently interviewed by Yehudah HaKohen on his regular radio show,  aired on Israel National Radio “The Struggle”, President Barack Obama seriously threatened Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Audio: For the Freedom of Zion

Standing up to Anti Semitism

BS”D

Ellie’s comments … Principle Ralph Haller of Andrew Jackson High School in Queens, New York, declared bigotry to be un-American. To those who support Dr. Ron Paul’s (alleged) agenda at Liberty Forest (RonPaulForums.com) to get Americans back to their constitutional roots, take note.

by Dr. Rafael Medoff

INN reported on the shocking “Kick a Jew Day” in a Florida school last week. Sixty five years ago, a courageous US school principal showed his students that bigotry and hooliganism are un- American and unacceptable. Not today.

“Not anti-Semitic behavior at all.” That’s what the principal of a middle school in a St. Louis suburb said last year about students who took part in “Hit a Jew Day.”

Making excuses for anti-Semitism is bad enough. Slap-on-the-wrist punishments are even worse.

The ten Florida students who reveled in kicking Jews were punished by what the school described as “one day in-school suspensions” and conferences with their parents. The St. Louis students likewise received only brief suspensions; other students who taunted Jewish children verbally and encouraged the “hitters” were not punished at all.

Perhaps the school officials who chose to mete out such ultra-lenient penalties need a history lesson. A little-known episode that took place in New York City in early 1944 might provide some useful guidance.

In February 1944, five students from Andrew Jackson High School, in Queens, were caught painting anti Semitic slogans in the nearby town of Queens Village.

Principal Ralph Haller, who happened to be German-American, faced a dilemma. Technically, he had no jurisdiction over what students did outside school grounds. As an educator, he understood the moral importance of going beyond the letter of the law to find a way to punish the attackers and send a message to potential anti-Semitic vandals everywhere.

Click here to read more

NGO to Clinton: Settlements are legal

BS”D

From the Jerusalem Post Online!!

“The Office for Israeli Constitutional Law, a non-governmental legal action organization, sent a letter to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton last week, warning that by labeling Jewish settlements in the West Bank illegal, she is violating international law.

“The little-known Anglo-American Convention, a treaty signed by the US and British governments in 1924, stipulated that the US fully accepted upon itself the Mandate for Palestine, which declared all of the West within its borders.

“The treaty has been hidden,” said OFICL director Mark Kaplan. “But if you look at the House [of Representatives] deliberations during World War I, people are saying, ‘Look, we’ve invested a lot of money in Palestine, and we expect that this treaty will be upheld.’”

Click here to continue reading:

Then buy Howard Grief’s monumental book on the subject, listed on my books page –

The Legal Foundation and Borders of Israel under International Law

But most of all donate to Justice Now. Lawsuits are expensive. This is the most effect effort I’ve learned of yet initiated to protect the rights of the Jews in Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem.

From Glezele Vayne – Formerly Schmoozing with Elya & Ellie Katz

Blue Lodge Antisemites

BS”D

Liberty Forest (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/index.php)

-   Foreign Policy & Affairs (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=224)

-   –   Chabad rabbi: Jews should kill Arab men, women and children (and cattle) during war (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=195299)

Old Ducker

10-21-2009 07:00 AM

---

Originally Posted by YumYum (Post 2377288)You should care. You or your children will die for Israel. The goyisheh kopfs of this country have been duped into fighting Israel’s wars.http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default…=178&nid=19790

what can I say except “death to israel, death to zionism.” My god I sound like ahmedinejad, LOL

Ellie’s commentary: The previous quote was from Liberty Forest’s Foreign Policy & Affairs forum, the thread was dedicated to attacking R’ Manis Friedman, in a quote that was taken out of context. He dealt with the problem on his site. I posted his reply several times to counter the slander on this thread, to no avail.

A couple sources on this:

Is Minnesota’s Rabbi Manis Friedman Kosher? – Tzvee’s Talmudic Blog

It’s Good to Know by Rabbi Manis Friedman

Of course, the folks participating in the given thread who were determined to believe the worst re R’ Friedman continued to do so. My experience with them was an absolutely determined view to thinking the worst of anyone who was Jewish, who appreciated Jews, Judaism, Israel or Zionism. Tzvi accepted R’ Friedman’s backpedaling, and so should anyone who has ever been misunderstood and had to clarify themselves.

Liberty Forest has allowed itself to become a petrie dish for antisemtism. Argue with these sorts enough and you will realize they are anything but rational.

The next piece I’ve linked, by Dr. Fransisco Gil-White, argues that genocides are best analyzed using a medical model. The theory is that genocides are caused by epidemic mental diseases producing widespread insanity: What is a Genocide, to the Social Scientist? by Dr. Fransisco Gil-White.

From Free Republic comments section … I think this guy has the strategy down:

To: AmishDude

Ron Paul is a Birchite. Anyone who is friendly to Israel is in on “the Conspiracy.”

Bingo. Although the term is usually “Bircher”.

That’s their term for themselves. I’m no longer a member, so . . . I say “Birchite.”

The JBS is the “blue lodge” of the anti-Semitic movement in America. They officially eschew anti-Semitism, of course (though they are certainly hostile to Israel), so they get lots of decent people as members. Then they expose them to anti-Semitic conspiracy theories via such people as Nesta Webster and Prince Michel Sturdza. Eventually the decent members get the idea that “the Jews” are really behind it all and turn on the JBS. The JBS then kicks them out (refurbishing their “non-anti-Semitic” credentials) and replace them with more decent people. But the point is, once decent people have been turned into anti-Semites. And the JBS couldn’t do this if they were openly anti-Semitic.

The JBS has a quasi-official theology (Rushdoonyan “chr*stian reconstructionism”) and its interpretation of the Constitution is Jeffersonian strict-constructionism. It’s almost as if they believe that the United States is G-d’s special country (replacing Israel), that the Founding Fathers were Divinely inspired and the Constitution the Word of G-d. It wouldn’t surprise me if they believed the thirteen original colonies were the “restored tribes of Israel.” This is a form of national supersessionism not far removed from “identity.”

No organization has done more to make anti-Semites than the Birch Society (and again, they couldn’t do this if they were openly anti-Semitic). Almost every anti-Semite fo the past fifty years has been a member. Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if that old coot who shot up the Holocaust Museum was a member at one time.

The JBS is far more dangerous and evil than openly anti-Semitic organizations because it creates the anti-Semites who then join those organizations. Its “official” non-anti-Semitic position gives it an influence in the decent world that out-and-out anti-Semitic organizations don’t and can’t have.

The “isolationism” of the JBS is 100% phony. They are “isolationists” only in conflicts that they perceive benefit Jews. They were all for “American meddling” in Central America in the Eighties and defended John Singlaub when he was removed by Jimmy Carter for criticizing the notion that American troops should be pulled from that peninsula. The only situation in which the JBS takes a neutral position between a country under attack by Communists and the Communists who are attacking it is Israel. I was once a chapter leader and had a small library of back issues of their former magazine American Opinion, and they were far more explicit about their anti-Israel animus back in those days (Israel, alone among countries under attack by Communist terrorists, was actually run by “the Conspiracy” and the conflict was “phony”).

I hope they rot.

From Glezele Vayne — (formerly Schmoozing with Elya & Ellie Katz)

A story of Crazy Leftist attacking on Thanksgiving

A story by stash at table 9 .” After dinner, we are eating dessert and my cousin, his son, and SIL’s boyfriend end up at the kitchen table. Oh, and me too at the table. I was talking to my cousin about investing in silver since the dollar and economy are looking pretty shaky, and numnuts and his fellow travellers seem to be doing stuff to make it worse. First, the perp starts poo pooing PMs (Precious metals). Ok, I say. There is a level of speculation in PM’s but when I look at my stocks, bonds, and currency, there seems to be no safety there anymore. He is contrarian and tells me how Obama is doing great, the economy is turning around, etc. (btw, he is unemployed) So, he asks me about Obamacare. I said that while I would like to see improvements, I did not think it was acceptable to replace capitalism with fascism. He goes ballistic. So he gives me the socialist sob story about insurance coverage and how they make too much money. I tell him that he does not understand how insurance works. Plus it is not his business how much a private corp exec makes. From there, he asks who my favorite recent president is. I say GWB. I thought he was going to choke to death……..hah. He asked for an example. I said, Foreign Policy.. He starts yammering about bush lying about Irag. I aksed him for an example. He says there is no WMD’s in Irag. I pointted out that several hunderd tons of enriched uranium were sold from the new Iraq govt. to Canada. Also that as I recall, about 50000 pounds of nerve agents were intercepted going from Syria to Jordan, which had been made in Iraq.  He says, you are making that up. I said no, it was reported in the media, although got little hype. He says, bull shit. I tell him, well, from 2000 to 2008 I was involved in the GWOT and I was aware of quite a bit that has not been reported, and wouldn’t before 30 years or so.He called me a liar. When I pointed out where I had worked and that I was involved in counter-terrorism, intell, joint services planning, tactics and strategy simulatins, he said that I was lying. About that time SIL comes in and tells US to hush. I had not raised my voice at all, I had not called him names, although I am guilty of refuting his mythology with facts which were personally experienced .So, I wind the subject around to terrorism theats, I got into as much specifics as I could safely do. Told him about personal combat experiences, the interdiction of quite a few events that had they transpired would have been mass casualty events, etc. He gradually shut up, tucked his tail between his legs, and sat beside SIL holding her hand.”

and  stash added “Oh, and he told me “People like you scare me”" I said, good. I have absolutely no intention of standing by while the marxists in the WH try to drag us further into fascism.”

Happy Thanksgiving! Obama is an anti-Israel moron

My family tried to lecture me on how what I am doing is wrong and dangerous. I disagree. I think Obama is a anti-semetic moron and the worse thing for Israel and America ever. The proof is in what he does.

Evil Obama scapegoats the Jews like evil Dictators before him

A commie, a maoist, and now a jihadi?

I do not regret posting this articles and I think anyone that supports what this mad man is doing to America and Israel should look at the facts again. Well happy thanksgiving.

On a side note is is beyond disturbing to read that BS the liberal media is pushing when the proponents of the global warming hoax have just been recently exposed for making up data in their “evidence”.

The Joys of Being Banned at Liberty Forest

BS”D

From Schmoozing with Elya & Ellie Katz

I have had the unmitigated pleasure of being banned from Liberty Forest, a website which purports to promote the ideology of the Libertarian Party, and specifically, the agenda of Dr. Ron Paul and his son, Dr. Rand Paul. Turns out however, it is a haven for antisemites. What a feather in my cap.

Those who come to the site with sympathy towards the State of Israel, Jews or Judaism had better walk softly. Any itty bitty sign of rudeness will be noticed and quickly censured by either JoshLowry/Admin or the moderators. Awhile back, I had decided I was going to leave the forum permanently on post number 777. I have better things to do with my time.

Viral Video Against Release of Terrorists

BS”D

From Schmoozing with Elya & Ellie Katz

‘A Life’s Work’ Destroyed in Samaria

BS”D

This farm was dismantled with the assistance of local Arabs! What is the Israeli government doing? This is giving the Arabs an appetite for this sort of thing. — Ellie Katz

by Nissan Ratzlav-Katz

(IsraelNN.com) The Botzer family, whose farm was demolished Monday morning by the military, described for Arutz Sheva Radio the loss they have suffered, saying it is far more than financial.

The Botzer farm, located adjacent to Mevo Dotan in the Shomron (Samaria) region, was destroyed Monday morning as part of the government crackdown on what have been defined as “unauthorized outposts” in lands liberated by Israel prior to the Six Day War. David and Shaina Botzer told Arutz Sheva that their farm is actually on state land within the municipal territory of Mevo Dotan, although west of the town’s current residential area.

“My husband is a Navy commando and while he was planning to go to do his reserve duty, they came and dismantled his life’s work. This was an animal pen worth tens of thousands of shekels. There were 50 heads of sheep there as part of an educational agricultural project that involves the area youth,” Shaina said. The animal pen itself was subject to a demolition order, she said, but the order was in appeal before the proper authorities. In addition to the animal pen, the security forces also destroyed a stable that was not subject to the existing demolition order, Botzer added.

Click here to continue reading

Mumbai Doctor Smashed Idols and Became a Jew with Holtzbergs

BS”D

by Hana Levi Julian

(IsraelNN.com) In a powerful echo of the Biblical story of the patriarch Abraham, a Mumbai doctor smashed his father’s idols and eventually decided to become a Jew in the Land of Israel.

Dr. Aharon Abraham, left his position as Director of the ICU Medical Center at British Kennedy in Mumbai, India after terrorists murdered his spiritual guide and his wife, Rabbi Gabi and Rivky Holtzberg one year ago.

Abraham was born Vagirds Frads to a Hindu cleric who worshipped idols, and a mother who prepared food for them.  As did the Biblical Abraham, young Vagirds could not understand how his father could honor a man-made statue, nor why his mother would cook for them. “Sometimes I eat it in secret,” he confided in an article that appeared in Hebrew in Sichat HaShavuah.

Unlike the patriarch, however, he waited until after graduating high school to confront his father, asking how he could believe “such nonsense.” But when there was no reply, his anger led him to take a hammer and smash the idols, exactly as Abraham had done. “The gods are angry!” his father shouted at him, he recounted, and recalled his reply: “If they’re angry, let them do something, reconstruct themselves…”

It was while studying medicine at the University of Mumbai that he first read a Bible, given to him by Christian students. Amazed, he read the story of Abraham and many others. “A new world opened before me,” he said.

Click here to read more

From Schmoozing with Elya & Ellie Katz

Archive Video: Funeral for Rabbi Gavriel and Rifka Holtzberg

BS”D

From Schmoozing with Elya & Ellie Katz