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PA Arabs, Jews Join Forces; Call to Obama to ‘Leave Us in Peace’

Posted by Glezele Vayne on October 11, 2010

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The local people have always been better able to get along with one another than their leaders will allow. I also remember the days when the Jews and Arabs of E”Y got along very well. The flames of intolerance are fanned by greedy government elitists who have their own agendas…and it doesn’t involve peace or prosperity for the little guy…despite the propaganda. — Ellie Katz

by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

Palestinian Authority Arabs and Jews in Samaria worked together Monday to fight a fire that threatened to wreak irreparable damage at the site of the Biblical era temple at Shiloh.

The presence of Arabs, who risk their lives by even working for Jewish employers despite new Palestinian Authority legislation outlawing the practice, demonstrated the ability of both Jews and Arab to join forces, Shiloh residents said. Among similar joint efforts in the past year, Arabs helped save Jews in eastern Gush Etzion after their vehicle caught on fire. Click here to continue reading….

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Rabbi Meir Chai, Father of Seven, is Dead in Samaria Shooting

Posted by Glezele Vayne on December 24, 2009

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by Gil Ronen

(IsraelNN.com) Rabbi Meir Avshalom Chai, 40, of Shavei Shomron, was mortally wounded in the head Thursday afternoon when terrorists fired at the car he was traveling in, between the Jewish communities of Shavei Shomron and Einav in Samaria, west of Shechem, according to preliminary reports. A spokesperson for Shavei Shomron said that Rabbi Meir Chai worked as an educator at the local school and kindergarten, and that the children were very attached to him. He lived in the community for 14 years and was considered a wise Torah scholar, modest and well-loved.

A large force of Israeli soldiers and police has started searching for the terrorists, who escaped the scene.

Magen David Adom emergency services declared the victim of the shooting dead late Thursday afternoon.

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Concessions to Obama Blamed for Enabling Murder of Meir Chai

Posted by Glezele Vayne on December 24, 2009

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(IsraelNN.com) Samaria Regional Council Head Gershon Mesika said following the terrorist murder of Rabbi Meir Chai from Samaria Thursday: “After a long period of security quiet, the main roadblock between Shavei Shomron and Tulkarm was recently opened, despite our warnings. The government of Israel preferred ‘the Palestinian fabric of life’ to its citizens’ rights.”

The IDF’s removal of roadblocks is widely perceived as a gesture toward US President Barack Obama, who has pressured Israel to make Arabs’ “fabric of life” as comfortable as possible.

Last Thursday, soldiers removed the concrete cubes and metal gate that made up the roadblock north of Shechem, near Shavei Shomron, despite pleas by Samaria residents to the IDF not to remove it. The removal means that traffic between Shechem and Tulkarm now flows without any security monitoring. Another IDF checkpoint on the road, at Beit Iba at the northern exit from Shechem, was removed several months ago.

Upon receiving news of the attack, MK Yaakov Katz (Ketzaleh) of the National Union said that “this is the first payment of the the ‘at any price’ of the Shalit deal, even before the deal has been carried out. The tracks lead to Netanyahu who is willing to release arch-murderers but freezes the lives of Jews and opens roadblocks, thus encouraging the terror he is surrendering to.”

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Rabbi Meir Chai, Father of Seven, is Dead in Samaria Shooting

Posted by Glezele Vayne on December 24, 2009

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by Gil Ronen

(Israelnationalnews.com) Rabbi Meir Chai, 45, of Shavei Shomron, was mortally wounded in the head Thursday afternoon when terrorists fired at the car he was traveling in, between the Jewish communities of Shavei Shomron and Einav in Samaria, west of Shechem, according to preliminary reports.

A spokesperson for Shavei Shomron said that Rabbi Meir Chai worked as an educator at the local school and kindergarten, and that the children were very attached to him. He lived in the community for 14 years and was considered a wise Torah scholar, modest and well-loved.

A large force of Israeli soldiers and police has started searching for the terrorists, who escaped the scene.

Magen David Adom emergency services declared the victim of the shooting dead late Thursday afternoon.

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‘A Life’s Work’ Destroyed in Samaria

Posted by Glezele Vayne on November 23, 2009

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This farm was dismantled with the assistance of local Arabs! What is the Israeli government doing? This is giving the Arabs an appetite for this sort of thing. — Ellie Katz

by Nissan Ratzlav-Katz

(IsraelNN.com) The Botzer family, whose farm was demolished Monday morning by the military, described for Arutz Sheva Radio the loss they have suffered, saying it is far more than financial.

The Botzer farm, located adjacent to Mevo Dotan in the Shomron (Samaria) region, was destroyed Monday morning as part of the government crackdown on what have been defined as “unauthorized outposts” in lands liberated by Israel prior to the Six Day War. David and Shaina Botzer told Arutz Sheva that their farm is actually on state land within the municipal territory of Mevo Dotan, although west of the town’s current residential area.

“My husband is a Navy commando and while he was planning to go to do his reserve duty, they came and dismantled his life’s work. This was an animal pen worth tens of thousands of shekels. There were 50 heads of sheep there as part of an educational agricultural project that involves the area youth,” Shaina said. The animal pen itself was subject to a demolition order, she said, but the order was in appeal before the proper authorities. In addition to the animal pen, the security forces also destroyed a stable that was not subject to the existing demolition order, Botzer added.

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Military Establishment Fears Yesha Kids, Expulsions Postponed

Posted by Glezele Vayne on July 24, 2009

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by Maayana Miskin

(IsraelNN.com) Military officials meeting to discuss the destruction of Jewish homes in civilian outposts in Judea and Samaria have agreed to postpone several demolitions, according to the Hebrew-language daily Maariv. Commanders decided to delay implementation of demolition orders for one reason – due to the large number of young Land of Israel supporters currently on vacation from school.

“This is a horrible time to evacuate outposts, because thousands of youth and children are wandering around the area during summer vacation,” one explained. “They’ve already demonstrated that they can mobilize quickly.”

The source explained why children in particular posed a threat to demolition plans: “Nobody in the security establishment wants to fight with kids, because pictures of injured children will have a negative effect on the whole process.”

“When they go back to school, it’ll be easier to evacuate [outposts],” he concluded.

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Dhimmitude in Eretz Israel

Posted by Glezele Vayne on July 8, 2009

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“Yet perhaps most galling of all to effendi (Arab landlords) leadership was the Jew who would settle the land. This was not the dhimmi Jew — cowering to survive, as in Arab lands — but a person who commanded equal treatment. The outrage which that insistence created, among those weaned on the tradition of Muslim supremacy, would infect the multi-ethnic Arabic-speaking Muslim workers of Palestine as well: for centuries Jews had been objects to oppress and despise.” (From Time Immemorial by Joan Peters, pg 172)

Fayyad Promises Rights for Jews in PA State

by Maayana Miskin

(IsraelNN.com) During an appearance Saturday in Aspen, Colorado, Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Salam Fayyad promised that Jews who choose to live in a future Palestinian Authority-led Arab state in Judea and Samaria will be granted equal rights. His statements stood in contrast to the PA’s current policies regarding Jewish residents of the region.

Fayyad’s statements were made as part of a question and answer session during the Aspen Ideas Festival. The event was covered by the Aspen Daily News.

“The kind of state that we want to have, that we aspire to have, is one that would definitely espouse high values of tolerance, co-existence, mutual respect and deference to all cultures, religions,” Fayyad said in response to a question about the possibility for a Jewish minority to remain among residents of a PA Arab state.

Jews who remain in Judea and Samaria if Israel withdraws “will enjoy these rights and certainly will not enjoy any less rights that Israeli Arabs enjoy now in the state of Israel,” he added.

The promise of equal rights came in response to a question from former CIA Director James Woolsey, who asked if Israeli Jews who chose to live in Judea and Samaria would be given the rights granted to Arab citizens of Israel. Among those rights are the right to vote, freedom of worship, free speech, “and most importantly, be able to go to sleep at night without worrying someone is going to kick down the door and kill them,” according to Woolsey.

Fayyad’s statements in favor of co-existence and equality sharply contradict current PA policy regarding Jews in Judea and Samaria. The PA considers all Jewish communities in the area to be illegal, and has demanded that all be dismantled and their residents removed from the region.

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Fatah Forces Jews out of Jerusalem Home; Arabs Destroy It

by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

(IsraelNN.com) Arabs destroyed a Jewish home in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood in Jerusalem last week after forcing a Jewish contractor to leave. Both the Arabs and Jews claim that police were involved, but a police spokesman said he knows of no activity in the area.

The Bethlehem-based Maan news agency, which is closely affiliated with the Fatah-led Palestinian Authority, reported Wednesday morning that senior Fatah leaders prevented Jews from entering the home. The Fatah officials, in the presence of police, reportedly convinced the Jews to leave the property, allegedly owned by an Arab since the 1940s.

Aryeh King, whose Israel Land Fund is heavily involved in the Jewish presence in eastern Jerusalem, said that the incident actually took place two weeks ago and that the police evicted the Jews.

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Jewish Response to the Obama Cairo Speech

Posted by Glezele Vayne on June 11, 2009

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From Schmoozing with Elya & Ellie Katz

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Ex-Defense Minister Arens: ‘We Must Build Up Settlements’

Posted by Glezele Vayne on June 5, 2009

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Am Yisrael Chai!

Am Yisrael Chai!

by Hillel Fendel

(IsraelNN.com)
Ex-Defense and Foreign Minister Professor Moshe Arens says, “We must strengthen the Jewish communities of Judea and Samaria even beyond their natural growth rates.”

The soft-spoken former Technion professor of aeronautical engineering is not happy with U.S. President Barack Obama’s new aggressive approach to Israel. “We’re not used to receiving orders from others,” he told Arutz-7’s Hebrew newsmagazine on Thursday. “We are an independent country. We hear what the president says, but we are not at Mt. Sinai where we respond, ‘We will do whatever you say.’”
Arens served for six terms as a Knesset Member, was Minister of Defense in four different governments, and was Minister of Foreign Affairs in one. He immigrated to Israel in 1948 from the United States.

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US Ducks Bush Support for Jewish Cities in Yesha

Posted by Glezele Vayne on June 3, 2009

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by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

(IsraelNN.com) The U.S. State Department Tuesday refused to state whether the Obama administration will honor a promise by the previous government that Israel will retain sovereignty over large Jewish areas in Judea and Samaria, in the event that a new Palestinian Authority state is created.

Then-President George W. Bush wrote former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in 2004, “In light of new realities on the ground, including already existing major Israeli populations centers, it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949, and all previous efforts to negotiate a two-state solution have reached the same conclusion.”

Sylvie Lucas, President of the Economic and Social Council, charged that the refusal of the United States to state whether it is backing the commitment is problematic because “we are continually calling, for example, on the Palestinians – all factions of the Palestinians – to abide by the commitments that previous Palestinian governments have made. And yet you stand at that podium unwilling to declare whether or not the United States feels obligated to abide by the commitment that a previous United States government made.”

The question of whether U.S. President Barack Obama will honor the letter was raised at the State Department’s daily press briefing last week. Spokesman Ian Kelly replied, “That’s an excellent question…and I’ll get you the information on that.”

Spokesman Robert Wood dodged the issue Monday but was cornered on Tuesday by Lucas, who verbally sparred with him. [Questions and answers on the letter are located at 29 minutes after start of video.]

Wood repeatedly answered Lucas, “What I tried to say yesterday, and I’ll try and say it again today, is that we are working with the two parties to implement their Roadmap obligations….We’ve been extremely clear about that.”

Pressed by Lucas, who asked, “So it means you are not bound by this letter?” Wood replied, “What I said, Sylvie, was we are working with the two sides to help them implement their Roadmap obligations.”

Lucas tried again: “Why don’t you want to say if you are bound or not? I don’t understand.”

Wood: “I’m saying what I’m saying.”

Lucas: Well, you are not answering.” As others at the session laughed out loud, she asked, “I don’t understand why you don’t want to say it.”

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Iroquois Territory Leaders Demand Jews Halt Construction in Jerusalem

Posted by Glezele Vayne on June 1, 2009

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Pungent Quote of the Day: “Ms. Clinton’s press spokesman was asked if President Obama’s demand to halt expansion of “West Bank Jewish communities” included a demand to stop expansion of Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem.

The answer was affirmative. The U.S. State Department demands that Israel limit Jewish growth in these areas of Jerusalem, “whose status remains to be determined” in negotiations.

Israeli Government Press Director Daniel Seamen reacted to this Obama administration statement by saying: ‘I have to admire the residents of Iroquois territory for assuming that they have a right to determine where Jews should live in Jerusalem.’ “

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Historical Accuracy Has Become Radical

Posted by Glezele Vayne on May 28, 2009

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According to some reliable sources, approximately 3,000 Jews are slated to be expelled from their homes beginning as early as next week. I wonder what it’s like preparing for Shavuos knowing that in a few days, one will be tossed out of one’s home? Most of these people have great strength and faith in HKB”H, so I imagine they are not allowing next week’s scheduled events to put a damper on their Shavuos celebrations. — Ellie Katz

Judenrein Palestine?

Rachel Neuwirth, writing in Israeli National News (Jan. 6, 2004):

Why is it that people are proposing a Middle East peace plan that will make Judea and Samaria Judenrein (the Nazi term for a place with no Jews)?

It is the historic homeland and birthplace of the Jewish people, yet many world leaders – including every American president – believe that the removal of Jewish communities from Judea and Samaria is a crucial prerequisite for a peaceful resolution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Unfortunately, every Israeli prime minister has been pressured to follow this policy.

Jews have lived in Judea and Samaria for thousands of years. In fact, the Jewish religion and people were birthed in Hebron. We know of the ancient Jewish presence there from both the Hebrew and Christian Bibles and from abundant archaeological and documentary evidence.

No one denies that the oldest document showing the historical connection of the Jewish people to the land of Israel, including Judea and Samaria (a.k.a. the West Bank), is the Bible. Genesis 24:18 says: “And Abram moved his tent, and came and dwelt by the terebinths of Mamre, which are in Hebron.” And the world’s oldest documentation of real estate being purchased for full price is also in the Bible (see Genesis 23:9). And for those who doubt biblical references, there is substantial evidence in archaeological findings (see http://www.sciencedaily.com/encyclopedia/History_of_ancient_Israel_and_Judah ).

Historically, the Jewish homeland included what is today called Judea and Samaria, the Golan Heights, and a considerable part of today’s Jordan. The land was inhabited mainly by Jews and was ruled by Jews. Therefore, Lord Robert Cecil, former acting British foreign secretary, was right to use the name “Judea” for the whole land in his famous remark: “Our wish is that Arabian countries shall be for the Arabs, Armenia for the Armenians, and Judea for the Jews.” (December 2, 1917; see http://www.esek.com/jerusalem/iudaea.html .)

The Jewish presence there has been continuous, except for 19 years from 1948 to 1967 when the area became Judenrein . And during that 19 year period, the Jordanians and Arabs of the remaining portion of “Palestine” desecrated Jewish holy sites and cemeteries in an attempt to deny that the Jews ever lived there.

Those who advocate the dismantling of the Jewish communities in this territory are advocating a policy of ethnic cleansing. This may sound extreme, but from the early 1900s, the Arabs carried out a policy of ethnic cleansing that included the massacre and pogroms in 1929 and 1936 in Hebron. Both the spirit and practice of ethnic cleansing are being continued in the current conflict (see http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php ).

So, what did UN Secretary-General Kofi Anan mean in his 2001 Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech when he said, “A genocide begins with the killing of one man — not for what he has done, but because of who he is. A campaign of ‘ethnic cleansing’ begins with one neighbor turning on another.”

Does this not also apply to the Israeli Jews who have re-established homes in Judea and Samaria? Should they be ethnically cleansed from the heart of their historical homeland? Does the Nobel recipient not know a real victim of ethnic cleansing when he sees one?

The same people and countries that condemned ethnic cleansing in the Balkans, Cyprus, Rwanda and Tibet totally reverse themselves when it comes to the right of Jewish people to live in the lands of their historic patrimony. If Chinese people were forbidden to live in China, Buddhists barred from Tibet, or Irish-Catholics banned from South Boston, there would be a tremendous outcry against such injustices. But where is the outcry against the removal of Jews from Judea — their historical homeland?

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UN Security Council: New Arab State Urgently Needed

Posted by Glezele Vayne on May 11, 2009

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by Nissan Ratzlav-Katz

(IsraelNN.com)

The United Nations Security Council issued a statement Monday calling for the creation of a new Arab state in Judea, Samaria and Gaza and the cessation of Jewish development in those same areas. Israel rejected the
The U.N. also specifically called on Israel to cease all further development of Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria.
involvement of the Security Council in what it sees as a bilateral issue.

The declaration, affirmed by 15 member states, was presented by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. Russia currently chairs the Council.

‘Urgent Efforts’ to Create a New Arab State
“The Council reiterates its call for renewed and urgent efforts by the parties and the international community to achieve a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East, based on the vision of a region where two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, will live side by side in peace, within secure and recognized borders,” the U.N. Security Council declared.

To that end, the Council encouraged the Quartet – the U.N., the U.S., Russia and the European Union – “to support the parties in their efforts to achieve a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East.”

The Council also called for a comprehensive Middle East peace agreement, including between Israel and Syria.

In her comments to the Council, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice added: “This is a moment that should not be lost and that is why the United States and others are redoubling our efforts to achieve a lasting two-state solution.”

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A resident stranger, as referred to in the Torah, was one who was willing to abide by Torah law, living in peace among the Jewish people. As for those who would continue harassing the Jewish people within the land, refusing to abide by the Torah, they were indeed to be driven out. Many Arabs living in the disputed territories, and even within the current borders of modern Israel certainly qualify as enemies of the Jewish people, and state exactly that, proudly, repeatedly. These were the Arabs that R’ Kahane said “must go”. If one reads his books, one will find that he made a provision for non-Jews who swore an oath of loyalty to Israel, and were committed to living among the Jewish people in the Land, in peace and according to Jewish Law. These are known as “righteous gentiles” and are honored in the Torah.

There are Druzim, Armenians, Circasions, Christians of all stripes, and Arabs who live in Israel and in the disputed territories that qualify as “righteous gentiles”. Of course, those people would be able to stay. Only the bloodthirsty, the permanently belligerent people must go, and R’ Kahane made that clear in his writings. The MSM did their best to cover that part of R’ Kahane’s agenda. — Ellie Katz

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Olmert offers 91.5% of Judea and Samaria, ‘Palestinians’ say not enough

Posted by avideditor on May 26, 2008

Olmert is trying to sell out the jewish people and state in his last days in office. Luckly the jihadis calling them selves the ‘Palestinians’ refused. Jihadis want war not peace. Olmert needs to be kicked out off office and the jihadis need to be kicked out of Israel now!

Here is the report from Israel Matzav:

Despite some denials that have been coming in throughout the evening, it appears that Prime Minister Ehud K. Olmert has offered the ‘Palestinians’ 91.5% of Judea and Samaria, and has offered them land between Hebron and Gaza (for ‘safe passage’) in return for the rest. The ‘Palestinians’ have turned down the offer as not good enough.

Palestinian officials close to peace talks said Sunday that Israel has offered a West Bank withdrawal map that leaves about 8.5 percent of the territory in Israeli hands, less than a previous plan but still more than the Palestinians are ready to accept.

Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat and other PA officials, however, told The Jerusalem Post that the report is unsubstantiated.

Also Sunday, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas was quoted as telling backers that the negotiations have achieved no progress since they were restarted last November with a pledge to US President George W. Bush to try for a full peace treaty by the end of the year.

The Palestinian officials said that Israel presented its new map three days ago in a negotiating session. The last map Israel offered had 12 percent of the West Bank remaining in Israel. Israel wants to keep West Bank land with its main settlement blocs, offering land inside Israel in exchange. The land would be between Hebron in the southern West Bank and Gaza – at least part of a route through Israel to link the two territories.

The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because the negotiations are being conducted behind closed doors, said Palestinians were ready to trade only 1.8% of the West Bank for Israeli land.

Israeli officials refused to comment.

I’ll comment. I don’t see any reason to offer that much. In fact, it’s suicidal, because somewhere in that 8.5%, just about every bit of what’s left of the rump State of Israel – God forbid – will be exposed to ‘Palestinian’ terror attacks. Including the airport. So what the heck is Olmert offering them? By the way, this does not include Jerusalem, which they hope to agree on later.

But ‘moderate’ ‘Palestinian’ President Mahmoud Abbas Abu Mazen is losing patience again.

Abbas indicated skepticism about the prospects of the renewed talks.

“Nothing has been achieved in the negotiations with Israel yet,” Abbas told a meeting of the Fatah Revolutionary Council, according to a report Sunday in the Fatah-associated al-Ayyam daily and confirmed by meeting participants.

Domestic issues in both Israel and the US are diverting attention from peacemaking, Abbas told Fatah leaders.

“I fear the (corruption) probe against Olmert and the American preoccupation with the (presidential) elections will negatively affect the negotiations,” Abbas said, according to a member of the council, Salah Taameri.

Awwww….

The problem with these kinds of ridiculous offers is that even if the ‘Palestinians’ say no, they just become starting points for the next time. In fact, one of the reasons they are saying no now is because Ehud Barak offered them about 98% in 2001 at Taba (plus control of the above ground part of the Temple Mount and all the Arab neighborhoods in the Old City of Jerusalem) and they still turned it down. The ‘Palestinians’ figure there has to be a better offer on the way. And with Olmert negotiating with himself and the prosecutors, they are probably right.

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Most Jews regard Judea and Samaria as liberated – not occupied – and Oslo as a mistake

Posted by avideditor on April 10, 2008

I found this reassuring article at Israel Matzav: I hope Israel changes its leadership before it is too late.

The Peace Index Project is conducted at the Tami Steinmetz Center for Peace Research and the Evens Program in Mediation and Conflict Resolution of Tel Aviv University, headed by Prof. Ephraim Yaar and Prof. Tamar Herman. It has been issued monthly since the heyday of Oslo ‘peacemaking’ efforts. This month, they surveyed Jews separately and those those who run the ‘peace index’ had a bit of a shock.

While most of the Jews (68%) still support what’s called the ‘two-state solution,’ when you get beyond that basic question, it becomes clear that Israeli Jews have a very different idea than the ‘Palestinians’ of what a ‘two-state solution’ means:
About three-quarters do not believe the negotiations will lead to an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement, and an identical proportion says that even if an agreement is signed it will not, from the Palestinians’ standpoint, end the historic conflict with Israel.

This pessimism is apparently what fosters the hard-line positions that most of the Jewish public now takes on central aspects of the conflict and the chances of resolving it. It turns out, for instance, that in retrospect only among Meretz, Labor, and Kadima does a majority say the decision to launch the peace process at the beginning of the 1990s was correct. In the public overall, the number of those who think so (40%) is lower than the percentage of those who believe it was a mistake to enter the peace process that enabled the Oslo accords (47%). We found a similar mindset among those who say that if a peace treaty entails difficult concessions, it’s preferable to remain in the existing situation (49%, with 43% preferring an agreement even if its price is difficult concessions).

We were surprised to discover that even though, over the years, the concept of “occupation” has become more common both in the political discourse and the media, [Translation: Even though the leftist media has done its best to brainwash the Israeli public. CiJ] today a majority of the Jewish public defines the West Bank as “liberated territory” (55%) and not as “occupied territory” (32%). This may explain the new popularity of the position (57%) that the Green Line should not be considered the future border between Israel and the Palestinians, and that a new borderline should be established so that most of the settlements will be on the Israeli side and large Israeli Arab communities would move to the Palestinian side (only 23% of the Jewish public currently favors the Green Line as the future border; only among Meretz voters does a majority take the opposite view).

Interestingly, even among those who see the West Bank as “liberated territory” there is a clear majority-albeit small compared to the majority among those who see it as “occupied territory”-of supporters of a two-state solution. Here too the pessimism about the chances of ending the historic conflict with the Palestinians is widespread among both groups, though, as expected, more so among those who view the West Bank as liberated.

Moreover, if a peace agreement is signed on the basis of the two-states-for-two-peoples formula, the majority (65%) would want the border between the two states to be a closed one, without free passage from state to state. [Under current circumstances, that would leave the ‘Palestinians’ without an economy and – depending on arrangements between Judea and Samaria on the one hand and Gaza on the other – without a port. CiJ] The desire for segregation of the two peoples also emerges in the broad opposition (75.5%) to the idea of a binational state as an alternative solution to the two-state formula.

Finally, a considerable majority (61%) does not believe in Prime Minister Olmert’s sincerity when he says he intends to reach a peace agreement with the Palestinian Authority by the end of this year. Indeed, only among Labor voters (not even among Kadima voters) does a majority credit the sincerity of his intentions.

The telephone interviews were conducted by the B. I. Cohen Institute of Tel Aviv University on March 31 and April 1, 2008, and included 588 interviewees who represent the adult Jewish and Arab population of Israel (including the territories and the kibbutzim). The sampling error for a sample of this size is 4.5%.

You can’t fool all of the people all of the time.

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