The solution to the “Palestinian” curse on Israel
Update: Mark Levin Talks About Obama’s Speech to the muslim world: A great short audio lesson on the middle east.
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Israel since its founding has been attack by Arabs around them that don’t want any Jews to live in land they once controlled. It is against Islam to give up land that was previously under the control of Muslims. That is why the muslims created a fictitious people called the “Palestinians” , after Israel defeated the armies of the arab countries which out gunned and out number the Israelis. All of Israel’s major wars where won with the help of G-d, for this reason students of war strategy do not study the major Israelis wars (48, 67, and the yom kipper war). The defeated the armies of the arab countries realized this and but they did not give up because it was a holly war to rid the land of the Jews because the Koran forbid them from living on previously controlled Islamic land.
As long as Israel doesn’t loose faith in G-d Israel will be protected. The muslims deiced to take lessons from their holy book the Qu’ran and copy how there profit Mohammed. In one of the major battles of the Qur’an Mohammed destroys the neighboring jewish tribes by destroying their faith in G-d by making false promises and deceit. That is what the arab countries did in creating the myth of the Palestinian people.
There where very few Arabs living in Israel most of them where nomads. The zionist saying was “a land without people for a people with out a land.” When England controlled Israel the jews called themselves the Palestinians. However do to a great amount of reconstructing of facts and history funded by oil money and spread by anti semites, the world now believes there is such thing as the Palestinians who where refugees when Israel was founded.
There where more Jews kicked out of Arab lands then nomads and arabs that willing left what is now Israel. Before Israel was created the arabs didn’t call themselves Palestinians, they called themselves ”Southern Syrians”. The segment of land was divided into Jordan for the Muslims, and Israel for the jews. But after Israel started winning wars against the arab nations, the Arab counties paid people and emptied their jails into what they called “refugee camps”. They purposely left them in a state of neglect and didn’t let them into their counties. The arabs realized they would have no chance to defeat Israel on a military level so they created a class of people to try to break the will of the Israelis through Guerilla warfare.
Some jews love peace so much they are blinded by it. In their blinded state some jews and factions of the government that wanted political power tried to help out their unfortunate pali neighbors (I am now going to refer to ”Palestinians” as Pali). The more Israel gives or acknowledge the existence of the fictional palis the more power the palis gain and the more jews they end up killing. Jordan got sick of the palis and killed thousands of them during black september but the world said nothing. ”Palis” use children as human shieds and when one dies the media manipulation called Paliwood funded with oil money cause the world to cause condemnation.
Israelis have a great value for human life and they respect the lives of even their enemies. This causes palliwood to have to make up deaths like the Al Dura tapes. Where the french media showed and caused world outrage on a fictional killing. If you look farther in the tape the boy is not dead and he gets up. It is just sick that the french media aired this piece of propaganda. The Al Dura tapes gave rise to the second intifada which took the lives of thousands of innocent jews. Al Queda in Iraq gave the Al Dura tapes as justification of beheading Daniel Pearl.
The United States pressured Israel into giving the most historically Jewish regions in Israel over to the Palis which will use them as launching grounds to try to destroy Israel and to “push all the jews to the sea.” The anti semites at the state department give hundreds of millions of dollars and guns to the palis knowing full well that almost all of the money is going to be embezzled and used to buy weapons to kill jews, while keeping the average pali in a state of poverty. When foreign governments have given the “Pali” enough money to build every family a 2 story house with a pool.
Most of the Israelis know anything they give to the Palis will just be used to try to kill them. A vast majority of the people do not want to give the Palis any land. However, politicians that want to stay in power and lefty loons in Israel believe that by making consions they will appease the Palis but if you listen to their “moderate leaders” and watch their “moderate leaders” actions the appeasing branch of the Israeli people are wrong.
I started writing this proposal when the news that the “Palestinian” jihadis attacked Israel when Israel was trying to give give their enemy fuel. This news came as no shock to me, niether did the news that palis where planning on lacing the plates at a restaurant they work at with poison. If Israel gives the palis jobs they will use the jobs to try to kill Israelis. The same thing is true with land. Israel should not be supplying its enemy anything especially fuel. What do you think they use to launch several rockets at civilians everyday? Fuel. The utter blindness of some of Israels leaders to agree to supply the terrorist with weapons to kill jews just socks me.
The solution to the “palestinian” problem is Israel should move all the so called “Palestinian” out of the Judea and Summeria and into Gaza. If Jordan, Egypt or any of the other arab counties that are a million times bigger then Israel want to take them it would be great. But I doubt the arabs want to give up their most effective strategy to destroy Israel. The palis are turing the world favor against the only free democratic society in the middle east. Jews have been hated with out just cause through out history but the jews suffer most when they lose faith in G-d. The arab states see that following Mohammeds example and through lying and deception they are causing more jews to lose their faith in Israel and G-d. Hopefully the Jews will not fall for the same trap that the pedophile blood lusting profit pulled on the Jews in the Koran.
So once you get the Palestinians in to Gaza build a Large wall and missile shied around gaza and let the Jihadis figure their own problems out. I am sure the international community will condemn Israel but it is already condemning Israel for defending itself. If Israel just follows this course it will be able to flourish with out the guerrilla armies of the arab states trying to kill every jew they have a chance to in Jewish land. Israel should just take these actions to protect themselves.
Gaza has Egypt to the south. I am sure the world can pressure Egypt to provide fuel electricity and food. The Egypt is one of the greatest recipients of US foreign aid thanks to Carter and I am sure it would not want to give that up. So I am sure Egypt can supply the palis with fuel electricity, water, and food.
Israel should not supply food, water, fuel or anything to these terrorist. It is not Israelis fault these people that call themselves “Palestinians” have started a death cult and use their land and everything else Israel has given them to attack Israel instead of grow food and starting an economy. If you see what they are indoctrinating their children with you will see there is no chance that the “Palestinians” would ever have a lasting true peace with Israel.
I am going to add pictures, links, and videos when I have time.
PS I know there are grammar mistakes this is a blo,g not the MSM or a book. I will fix them at a later time.
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Sergei Andropov said
Let’s see…
“Israel since its founding has been attack by Arabs around them that don’t want any Jews to live in land they once controlled.”
Since before that, actually.
“the Koran forbid them from living on previously controlled Islamic land.”
I don’t think that’s in the Qur’án. The issue of formerly Muslim land did not arise during Muhammad’s lifetime.
“As long as Israel doesn’t lose faith in G-d Israel will be protected.”
If past events teach us anything, it will be protected even if it does lose faith. God has been amazingly patient with the sons of Abraham.
“In one of the major battles of the Qur’an Mohammed destroys the neighboring jewish tribes by destroying their faith in G-d by making false promises and deceit.”
If I recall correctly, only three battles are referred to in the Qur’án, two between Mecca and Medina and one between Mecca and Ethiopia. Which incident are you referring to?
“There where very few Arabs living in Israel most of them where nomads.”
Not so. Jewish migration of any significance began only after the Religious Toleration Law (or whatever it was called) of 1844. Nevertheless, the area was still populated. Cities like Acre and Jerusalem have been continuously inhabited for ages upon ages.
Class is about to start; I’ll post more later.
avideditor said
sergei the war with the jews occurred during the time Mohammed took over Medina. I am no koranic scholar but I am pretty sure Mohammed deceived the jewish into a peace agreement and then killed them. The actual verses and the whole story is told in the documentary http://www.farewellisrael.com/home.html . If you want I will re-watch that part and find the exact verses when I have more time. I think Robert Spencer mentions it some place in here http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015638.php
I think you are wrong about muslims willing to give up land that was once dar Islam. Read the jihad watch link above I think it points it out.
Also the amount of Muslims that lived in Israel before 48 has been highly exaggerated. There where almost twice as many Jews expelled from Muslim countries as Muslims that left Israel. Read this post it has some more information about the false refugee situation. http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2008/04/memo-to-europe-youre-israel.html I will find more direct sources for you later if you want.
As I said at the end I will source my essay when I have more time. But feel free to ask questions.
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Sergei Andropov said
“sergei the war with the jews occurred during the time Mohammed took over Medina.”
Muhammad didn’t take over Medina, he was invited to rule it in order to resolve a political impasse between its various tribes. There was no fighting. The only Jews ever exterminated during Muhammad’s time was a tribe that committed treason by siding with the Meccans during one of their attacks. Their fate was turned over to a judge (not Muhammad), who ordered them to be wiped out.
“I think you are wrong about muslims willing to give up land that was once dar Islam.”
Oh, Muslims will definitely want to preserve Dáru’l-Islám. What I was saying was that that was not a Qur’ánic belief.
“Also the amount of Muslims that lived in Israel before 48 has been highly exaggerated.”
It would not surprise me (indeed, it would surprise me if that were not the case). However, to claim that it was uninhabited (or even lightly inhabited) is simply wrong.
Back to the original post:
“Before Israel was created the arabs didn’t call themselves Palestinians, they called themselves ‘Southern Syrians’.”
Not quite. While it was true that Palestine was a part of the province of Syria, there was still a somewhat informal regional identity. In any case, regardless, of what they were called, they still lived there, and it was still their home.
“But after Israel started winning wars against the arab nations, the Arab counties paid people and emptied their jails into what they called “refugee camps”. They purposely left them in a state of neglect and didn’t let them into their counties. The arabs realized they would have no chance to defeat Israel on a military level so they created a class of people to try to break the will of the Israelis through Guerilla warfare.”
Yes and no. It would be more accurate to state that during the war, the Arab government created what were supposed to be temporary camps for the refugees whom they had removed from the theater. When they unexpectedly did not win the war, they couldn’t send the refugees back home. They could have let the Palestinians assimilate into their populations, but then they would have lost a valuable propaganda tool, so they decided instead to oppress them and blame it on the Israelis.
“The United States pressured Israel into giving the most historically Jewish regions in Israel over to the Palis which will use them as launching grounds to try to destroy Israel and to ‘push all the jews to the sea.'”
Those regions also happened to be the ones that were predominantly Palestinian. It’s not the United States’ fault that pre-1948 Jewish immigrants settled mostly along the coast. Also, the terrorists will use any adjacent territories to launch attacks. It’s actually better for Israel that the attacks come from the territories, since that means they can respond without having to invade one of their neighbors.
“However, politicians that want to stay in power… they will appease the Palis”
Palestinians can vote in Israeli elections?
“The solution to the ‘palestinian’ problem is Israel should move all the so called ‘Palestinian’ out of the Judea and Summeria and into Gaza.”
You’re joking, right? The Gaza Strip is already the most densely populated places on Earth. If you were to move the entire Palestinian population there, the population density would increase to 28,777 people per square mile, nearly three times that of New York City.
“So once you get the Palestinians in to Gaza build a Large wall and missile shied around gaza and let the Jihadis figure their own problems out.”
Actually, the wall and missile shield would have to be around Israel, because you would see an influx of foreign mujahideen that would dwarf that of the Afghan Jihad. This is to say nothing of the UN and/or NATO peacekeeping force, possibly including US units, that would show up on Israel’s doorstep in order to stop this ethnic cleansing. You’re mad at the Palestinians for wanting to push Israel into the sea, but you want to push Palestine into the sea. Do you see the irony in that?
konservo said
I know it’s best for someone who doesn’t know all the pertinent info to just observe and keep his or her opinions to him- or herself.
But I don’t always do what’s best 😉
If you ask me,
1) Since, I don’t believe that any religion is inherently less presumptuous than his theological brethren, I don’t think that appeals to “jihad” or “G-d” should be used when speaking of military or political matters. In my opinion, we might just as well attribute “chance” or “luck” as the reason one group emerged victorious.
2) If Israel successfully fended off a swarm of Arab fighters in 1967 and subsequently occupied lands that would have been “Palestine” had the inhabitants of those lands taken the steps to create that state, I see no problem here.
If this is true:
http://www.un.org/Depts/dpa/ngo/history.html
Then it is not a state called “Palestine” that was occupied, but rather, land that was occupied by Jordan and Egypt.
Were Jordan and Egypt actors in the 1967 war?
Indeed.
Do nations know the cost of losing an aggressive war?
They should. After all, the Ottoman Empire was destroyed and partitioned agter they were on the losing side of WWI; this is how many of the various Arab states were created in the first place. The only logical expectation of having your Arab asses handed to you by Israel is exactly what happened when the Ottomans had their asses handed to them, namely the occupation of strategically important lands until and if the victor feels it has come time to give those lands back to the losers, give those lands independent status, those lands are sold, or those lands are forcibly taken.
If Egypt and Jordan didn’t realize this, well, that’s not Israel’s fault and it certainly does not mean that Israel’s occupation of the land that was seized is in any way “illegal.”
I see no reason for any sort of free, independent Palestinian state, that is, other than the one which has already flourished and has proven to be a contributing member of the 21st century world community, namely, Israel. Because,
1) Jordan and Egypt lost their claim to those territories when they had their asses handed to them.
2) Israel, rightly, does not feel it time to give those territories independent status.
3) Since it is Israel’s perogative whether or not even to consider giving those territories independent status, there is no grounds to complain that they have not.
4) No one has rightly obtained ownership of those territories by any purchase (and, of course, it is up to Israel whether or not those territories are even on the market)
5) The territories have not been taken by force. No matter what the propaganda coming from HAMAS is saying:
http://djkonservo.wordpress.com/2007/12/29/this-is-my-jam-oh-wait/
Anyway, the only reason this is a problem is the combination of terrorism and propaganda that keep the people living in the Israel-owned Palestinian territories (because remember, the Arabs have seized Palestinian territory too) from bettering their lives.
Since the terrorism and propaganda largely come from the same source, namely, Arab and Islamic extremists (I would not even bring in ‘Islam’ were it not for Iran which is not an Arab nation), therein lies the problem.
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sk said
Um, Sergei, you don’t really think people around here will be fooled by your taqqiyah, do you?
“Muhammad didn’t take over Medina, he was invited to rule it in order to resolve a political impasse between its various tribes. There was no fighting.”
Those who have purchased and read _Mohammed and the Unbelievers_ (which is a translation of key parts of the Sira [the canonical life of Mo], interleaved with relevant parts of the Koran and Hadith [sayings of Mo, the most authoritative of which come from Bukhari and Abu Muslim], published by the Center for the Study of Political Islam), know that your statement is false. Medina was about half Jewish. The idea that Mo was “invited” to resolve any impasse and to rule is ridiculous on its face. Mo fled Mecca because, despite the tolerance of the (“infidel”) people there, he had finally worn out his welcome. He needed to build an army. While the Medinan suras of the Koran are considered “peaceable,” this is only in comparison with the Meccan suras that came later. Mo began his efforts by proclaiming himself the “real Jew,” claiming that the Jews had altered their Torah so that it did not contain an indication that Mo would be coming. His attitude toward the Jews, who refused to follow him, was shown as well by his decision to bow to the Kabah in Mecca and no longer to Jerusalem. He “called the Jews to Islam,” and they refused. The Sira (in the version I have) does not contain detailed battle scenes in Medina, but as the Jews refused Islam, and the Jewish population was decimated, one draws the obvious conclusion.
“The only Jews ever exterminated during Muhammad’s time was a tribe that committed treason by siding with the Meccans during one of their attacks. Their fate was turned over to a judge (not Muhammad), who ordered them to be wiped out.”
As I said, this is untrue even regarding Medina. Regarding “treason” by the Jews in Mecca, you are sounding like quite the Muslim apologist. In fact, Mo came to rule Mecca. Jews did not want to be ruled (which would mean either their conversion, their death, or their subjugation as dhimmis). No doubt Mo saw this as “treason” against Allah, but us infidels see that Mo should not be making war in the first place. “Treason” implies acts against one’s own accepted political authority, not resistance to an invader.
“Oh, Muslims will definitely want to preserve Dáru’l-Islám. What I was saying was that that was not a Qur’ánic belief.”
Oh really? In the first place, the Koran does not by itself spell out all of Islam. It must be taken with the Sira and Hadith. It is heresy to reject the Sira and Hadith, in particular because Mo is the ideal man whose behavior in every detail should be copied. So, your distinction is both deceptive and irrelevant. Second, even in the Koran there is always the distinction between areas that have “reverted” to Islam and areas that remain against Islam, and between Muslims and all others. Infidel lands are to be taken, with force as necessary. The claim that a loss of land does not violate Islamic doctrine is, again, ridiculous.
To others: you should buy at least the first three books (Mohammed and the Unbelievers, The Political Traditions of Mohammed, and A Simple Koran) so that you know these things already. Given that Islam hasn’t changed much for over 1,000 years, these sources are necessary for understanding what we’re up against. We can’t let Sergei, a Persian major, know more than we do.
Un named said
Yes Koran tells us to defend our own land, since the beggining of our life we were in that land, the same one you took for no good reason back in that time, At least Koran isn’t telling us in schools when we are 6 years old that killing a muslim will get you in heaven, that’s really “Israelis have a great value for human life and they respect the lives of even their enemies.”, About being called palestines or “southern syrians” I don’t think the name is the mere reason for being enemies, is it?
About calling arab terrorists, That’s how you immigrated to our lands, claimed it to be yours, dividing a country that was already in that place to 2 halfs, economically blocking them, Killing thousands of them, ravaging their own cities.
“1,400 Palestinians were killed in the 22-day Israeli offensive between 27 December 2008 and 17 January 2009,More than 900 of these were civilians, including 300 children and 115 women, Using various kinds of forbidden weapons, We really are terorists, savage.
“use their land and everything else Israel has given them”
You got to be kidding me, GIVEN THEM, who gave WHO.
elyakatz said
BS”D
To Un named,
Your post rambles a bit, with accusations directed at the Israelis and the Jewish people which are so wide in scope, it would take a small treatise to respond, and I simply don’t have the time or the inclination. Understand this: I realize that your mind is so heavily imbued with the teachings of the Quran, there is no way I am going to convince you of anything. In your mind, the Jews don’t belong in what you might refer to as “Palestine” but what was in earlier times known as Judea, Samaria and the Galilee, altogether to be referred to as Eretz Israel.
In the Muslim mind, we don’t belong anywhere. If we should happen to be “tolerated” it is only permitted under the proviso that we agree to accept the status of dhimmi. It is a “protected” status, similar to what the Mafia offers. Pay up or be murdered, and maybe if we’ve had a hard day, be murdered anyway.
You have convinced yourself that only Muslims have been wronged, but this is because of the supremacist teachings of the Quran, which insists the Muslim must reign superior everywhere. As you will see in this video, should you choose to watch it and it’s four other parts, there were at least as many Jewish refugees from Arab lands as there were Arabs who left Israel during the general time of 1948.
For readers who have a desire to learn the facts, not merely the dogma of partisans of either side, I suggest “From Time Immemorial” by Joan Peters. It is a long book, 661 pages, packed with original research which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the majority of Arabic speaking “residents” in the area then designated as Palestine were transient workers, often having been on the land for as little as two years, many less. The Turks and the British largely ignored non-Jewish illegal migration and immigration through and into the region, while keeping strict records and tight restrictions on Jewish immigration.
Back to what the Muslim offers the non-Muslim (perhaps even the Jew) i.e. dhimmitude, the following video, which comes in 5 parts, exposes such a life, one we were forced to live for thousands of years in Muslim lands. Been there and done that. No thanks.
Unknown said
Isn’t this a free world, Why do you delete people’s posts.
avideditor said
I do not delete anyones post. I approve the first post of everyone to prevent spam. I am way behind sorry. What was your post?
elyakatz said
BS”D
AE,
This particular commenter is operating under two names: “Un named” and “Unknown”. The city is the same both times, different IPs. He has a post criticizing and questioning Israel’s legitimacy, still unapproved. I was considering approving it and disputing his comments with facts, specifically this statement — “That’s how you immigrated to our lands, claimed it to be yours, dividing a country that was already in that place to 2 halfs, economically blocking them,” but I thought better of it, since it’s your post he’s commenting on.
Un named Unknown, some parts of the world are freer than others, I would contend. Because of that, owners of blogs get to decide whose comment they will post and whose they won’t.
avideditor said
Yup Elya. If you want to publish any of those comments and respond to prove there are nothing but lies go for it. I avoid posting comments with lies intended to mislead based off hate unless they are really funny or I have time and know how to respond. I just looked to see if there was any other “unknown” recent comments in the cue and I did not see any of them.
I welcome having an open discussion, if some one wants to disagree with me and bring facts to the table I will publish them.
Willie said
Wow! Great to find a post kncinokg my socks off!
Steve said
Philistines(Palestinians) were part of the Canaan society. Hebrews invades from the north and slaughtered the Canaanites but the could not defeat the Philistines(Palestinians).Eventually Babylon conquers Palestinians and Hebrews. The latest occupiers of Palestine are Israelis most of which migrated from places in Asia and Europe.99% of Israelis have no historical ties to Palestine.
I think it is ridiculous to suggest people would voluntarily immigrate to the West Bank and Gaza the way Israel treats those people. To use religion to oppress and kill people is wrong in any religion. Zionism is the enemy of Jews,Muslims and Christians.
Daredian said
Philistines were greek people…not arab but nice try…
mick hobbs said
you must be a right fucking arsehole. fuck you and fuck israel
mick nobbs said
you must be a right fucking arsehole. fuck you and fuck israel
elyakatz said
BS”D
You only need to hit the little button once.
Anon said
Mick Nobbs is a typical European Nazi.
Jesus said
This is all garbage. <<<<
Anon said
Israel has belonged to the Jews for centuries before Arabs even existed. Palestinian Arabs are invaders who squatted on the land while the Jews were gone because they were forcibly removed by the Romans. Arabs have no right to be in Israel.
Michael said
The solution is through Jesus Christ. Total disarmament of Islam.
Prince Michael
mob said
WHO EVER SAID PHILLISTINE WERE GREEKS I’M SORRY BUT YOUR A TOTAL IDIOT.
backed by US to occupy the Palestinians land were the European Jews. They are not Hebrew nor they are Jews as they claim, but rather they are Masonic Europeans.
THEY come from Germany, Poland, Ukraine Russia. They never lived nor their fathers lived in Palestine before.
The real Hebrews, they are nomad people. They never claimed land they never had state.
When Hitler expelled some of the European Masonic, England found to be a “patrons” of the region at the time.They help them to enter the Palestine and to occupy the other people’s land.
Ever since then, Palestinians fighting back. For 40 years! no peace.
In my mind, if the people who occupy the land of today’s Palestinians, were German Jews, and Hitler was German, then give them half of Germany not half of Palestine!
Where the name Palestine came from?
The name Palestine is given to the region spreading from eastern Mediterranean coast to the Jordan Valley to the area covering Galilee Lake in the north and southern Negev Desert. The origin of this word lies in “Plesheth”. This is a name appearing frequently in the Bible and have started being known as “Philistine” in English. The world root of “Plesheth” lies in the word “palah” was is a term used generally in the sense of migratory, referring to the Palestinian’s conquest of the coast of Mediterranean. These people were mostly originates of Asia Minor and Greece and gradually became a part of the Arab world.
The Philistines entered in this region not all at one time but in different eras. The first group reached here in the pre-patriarchal period and made a settlement in Gerar, south of Beersheba. The second group arrived from Crete and settled in the southern coastal area where it divided made different settlements into Gat, Ekron, Ashdod, Ascalon and Gaza. These districts were occupied by the foreign settlers coming mostly from the Mediterranean islands.
In the fifth century BC, the region of eastern coast of the Mediterranean started being called as “the Philistine Syria”, a term coined by the Greek historian, Herodotus and used in its Greek language form. In AD 135, the Emperor Hadrian blotted out the name “Provincia Judea” and renamed it “Provincia Syria Palaestina”. This was the Latin version of the Greek name and soon became a name to be used as an administrative unit. This name was shortened to Palaestina and the name “Palestine” was derived from it as a modern and anglicized version.
No changes occurred to this name until after the fourth century had passed when Palestine was divided in to three regions, following the imperial reorganization. The name Palestine was used by the Christian Crusades to regard all three of the divided regions in general and continued to be used for the regions on both sides of the Jordan River in general. Palestine went under the rule of the Ottoman Turks for 400 years where its administration was attached to Damascus. After the fall of the Ottoman Empire in World War I, the name Palestine was revived and was applied to the land falling under the British Mandate for Palestine. Arabs use the name “Falastin” for Palestine which is an Arab pronunciation of the Roman word “Palaestina.”