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Blue Lodge Antisemites

Posted by Glezele Vayne on November 28, 2009


Liberty Forest (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/index.php)

–   Foreign Policy & Affairs (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=224)

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Old Ducker 10-21-2009 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by YumYum (Post 2377288)You should care. You or your children will die for Israel. The goyisheh kopfs of this country have been duped into fighting Israel’s wars.


what can I say except “death to israel, death to zionism.” My god I sound like ahmedinejad, LOL

Ellie’s commentary: The previous quote was from Liberty Forest’s Foreign Policy & Affairs forum, the thread was dedicated to attacking R’ Manis Friedman, in a quote that was taken out of context. He dealt with the problem on his site. I posted his reply several times to counter the slander on this thread, to no avail.

A couple sources on this:

Is Minnesota’s Rabbi Manis Friedman Kosher? – Tzvee’s Talmudic Blog

It’s Good to Know by Rabbi Manis Friedman

Of course, the folks participating in the given thread who were determined to believe the worst re R’ Friedman continued to do so. My experience with them was an absolutely determined view to thinking the worst of anyone who was Jewish, who appreciated Jews, Judaism, Israel or Zionism. Tzvi accepted R’ Friedman’s backpedaling, and so should anyone who has ever been misunderstood and had to clarify themselves.

Liberty Forest has allowed itself to become a petrie dish for antisemtism. Argue with these sorts enough and you will realize they are anything but rational.

The next piece I’ve linked, by Dr. Fransisco Gil-White, argues that genocides are best analyzed using a medical model. The theory is that genocides are caused by epidemic mental diseases producing widespread insanity: What is a Genocide, to the Social Scientist? by Dr. Fransisco Gil-White.

From Free Republic comments section … I think this guy has the strategy down:

To: AmishDude

Ron Paul is a Birchite. Anyone who is friendly to Israel is in on “the Conspiracy.”

Bingo. Although the term is usually “Bircher”.

That’s their term for themselves. I’m no longer a member, so . . . I say “Birchite.”

The JBS is the “blue lodge” of the anti-Semitic movement in America. They officially eschew anti-Semitism, of course (though they are certainly hostile to Israel), so they get lots of decent people as members. Then they expose them to anti-Semitic conspiracy theories via such people as Nesta Webster and Prince Michel Sturdza. Eventually the decent members get the idea that “the Jews” are really behind it all and turn on the JBS. The JBS then kicks them out (refurbishing their “non-anti-Semitic” credentials) and replace them with more decent people. But the point is, once decent people have been turned into anti-Semites. And the JBS couldn’t do this if they were openly anti-Semitic.

The JBS has a quasi-official theology (Rushdoonyan “chr*stian reconstructionism”) and its interpretation of the Constitution is Jeffersonian strict-constructionism. It’s almost as if they believe that the United States is G-d’s special country (replacing Israel), that the Founding Fathers were Divinely inspired and the Constitution the Word of G-d. It wouldn’t surprise me if they believed the thirteen original colonies were the “restored tribes of Israel.” This is a form of national supersessionism not far removed from “identity.”

No organization has done more to make anti-Semites than the Birch Society (and again, they couldn’t do this if they were openly anti-Semitic). Almost every anti-Semite fo the past fifty years has been a member. Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if that old coot who shot up the Holocaust Museum was a member at one time.

The JBS is far more dangerous and evil than openly anti-Semitic organizations because it creates the anti-Semites who then join those organizations. Its “official” non-anti-Semitic position gives it an influence in the decent world that out-and-out anti-Semitic organizations don’t and can’t have.

The “isolationism” of the JBS is 100% phony. They are “isolationists” only in conflicts that they perceive benefit Jews. They were all for “American meddling” in Central America in the Eighties and defended John Singlaub when he was removed by Jimmy Carter for criticizing the notion that American troops should be pulled from that peninsula. The only situation in which the JBS takes a neutral position between a country under attack by Communists and the Communists who are attacking it is Israel. I was once a chapter leader and had a small library of back issues of their former magazine American Opinion, and they were far more explicit about their anti-Israel animus back in those days (Israel, alone among countries under attack by Communist terrorists, was actually run by “the Conspiracy” and the conflict was “phony”).

I hope they rot.

From Glezele Vayne(formerly Schmoozing with Elya & Ellie Katz)

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