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A great replacement for the Lizard Lounge

Posted by avideditor on April 14, 2009

A great anti-jihadi Chat.

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Shlomo Nativ of Bat Ayin

Posted by Glezele Vayne on April 14, 2009


Below is an edited version of a piece by Caroline Glick, sent out by www.isranet.com. The full piece can be found at the Jerusalem Post, and at Ms. Glick’s website www.carolineglick.com. Used with permission of Isranet Daily Briefing.

Caroline Glick
Jerusalem Post, April 6, 2009

We were not supposed to see Shlomo Nativ’s name in the newspapers. At least, we weren’t supposed to know who he was for several years. He was just a 13-year-old boy…. His life was not our business. And, to a certain extent, now that it is over, it still shouldn’t concern us. What should concern us is his death. Nativ was murdered last Thursday at the hands of a Palestinian ax murderer just a few meters from his home in Bat Ayin. And his death should interest us for what it teaches us, first of all about the nature of the Middle East and Israel ‘s place in it.

The mainstream media in Europe and the US and even here maintain that Nativ’s death tells us little we didn’t already “know” if we are right-thinking people. By this view of things, the cold-blooded terrorist murder of civilians–even of children–is to be expected when the victims in question are Israeli Jews who live beyond the 1949 armistice lines. It isn’t nice. It isn’t pleasant to say. But as far as the right-thinking people of the Western media are concerned, Israeli Jews like Nativ, who live in Gush Etzion in Judea , are simply asking to be murdered.

Today, the media’s view is shared by both European governments and the Obama administration. For years now the Europeans have accepted the legally unsupportable Arab claim that all Jewish presence in areas beyond the 1949 armistice lines is illegal. Since 1993, supported by the Israeli Left, the US government has gradually moved toward adopting this view. And today this view stands at the center of President Barack Obama’s emerging policy toward Israel and the Palestinians.

At base, this view assumes two things. First, it assumes that the root of the Arab-Israeli conflict is the absence of Palestinian statehood, and therefore the solution is the establishment of a Palestinian state. The second thing it assumes is that the Palestinian demand that any territory that Israel transfers to Palestinian control must first be ethnically cleansed of all Jewish presence is completely innocent and acceptable.

Obama made clear that this is the view of his administration on two occasions in the past week. First…he announced that as far as his administration is concerned, the only way of contending with the Arab conflict with Israel is by establishing a Palestinian state. In his words, “It is critical for us to advance a two-state solution.” And second, last Thursday in London, Obama made clear that he supports the mass expulsion of Jews from Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria (as well as the Golan Heights), when he announced his support for the so-called Saudi peace plan….

Nativ of course was not the first child to be brutally murdered by Palestinian terrorists…. It takes a special type of person to murder a child. And it takes a special type of society to support such behavior. Palestinian society is a special society. It has become routine, indeed it has become expected that in the aftermath of successful murders of Israelis–including children–Palestinians distribute candy in public celebrations….

[C]hildren represent the notion that life is intrinsically valuable. Since children haven’t yet had the chance to accomplish great and lasting things for humanity, all they can give us is the promise of a future. The fact that Palestinian terrorists target children specifically–both inside and outside the 1949 lines–and that Palestinian society celebrates their murder tells us that the two foundational assumptions upon which Obama and his supporters base their policies toward Israel and the Middle East are false. It is not the absence of a Palestinian state that stands at the root of the conflict, and it is not the presence of Israeli communities, or “settlements,” beyond the 1949 armistice lines that renders the conflict intractable.

Instead, the root of the conflict is the Arab world’s rejection of Israel ‘s right to exist–regardless of its size. And the reason the conflict is intractable is because hatred of Israel and Jews is so deep and endemic in both Palestinian society and the wider Arab world that they view the very existence of Jews–including Jewish children–in Israel as an unacceptable affront to their sensibilities. Indeed, the Jewish presence both within and beyond the 1949 armistice lines is so unacceptable that murdering Jews at every opportunity is perceived as an acceptable and indeed heroic undertaking.

This being the case, the question necessarily arises, why are these basic facts so assiduously ignored by people like Obama who should know better?… They wish to believe that the existence of Israeli communities in Judea and Samaria is a primary obstacle to peace because doing so allows them to ignore the fact that the reason there is no peace is because Palestinians and their Arab and Iranian brethren refuse to peacefully coexist with Israel regardless of its size. Accepting such bitter realities would make it impossible for them to move forward with their agenda of appeasing the Arab world because it would force them to acknowledge that the Arab world is unappeasable….

[T]he so-called settlements are nothing but an excuse for appeasers to curry favor with the Arabs by blaming Israel for the absence of peace while ignoring the Arabs’ bigotry, hatred and aggression. What these Israeli communities represent is nothing more than an assertion of Israeli rights to land–whether that land is within or beyond the 1949 armistice lines. If these communities didn’t exist–as they no longer exist in Gaza –then a surrogate, such as the IDF which protects other Israeli land, would be found to replace them….

In the end then, the truth exposed by Shlomo Nativ’s brutal murder on Thursday in Bat Ayin is twofold. First, it demonstrated that the so-called settlements have no relevance whatsoever to the intractability of the Arab-Israeli conflict. When your enemy hates you so much that he hacks your children to pieces, there is nothing you can do, short of committing suicide, that will appease him. Second, it reminded us of what appeasement places at risk. By attempting to appease the unappeasable, all that successive Israeli, American and European governments have done is strengthen our enemies at the expense of our security and freedom.

Update: I visited Ms. Glick’s site, read the entire piece, read most of the comments, and left a comment as well. I don’t know if it will be approved, but have decided to post it here:


To Marcel Cousineau, regarding your assessment of Israel, I would urge you to restrict your critique of Israel to it’s government. The average Israeli is not represented by the Israeli government. One notable example: When Ariel Sharon organized a Likud referendum on the Gaza Expulsion, he stated that the results would be honored. The “plan” was soundly rejected by the Likud, and that rejection was ignored. In the same way, the “average Israeli” understands reality. But her government has been bought off, the game is rigged. Voting in Israel doesn’t matter one whit. There is no difference anymore between Labor, Likud, Kadima. The rhetoric may differ (by a little) but the results are the same. It’s a game of musical chairs and the average Israeli, tired of being lied to, really is at a loss of what to do about it all.

The last Prime Minister that could truly be respected was the late Menachem Begin, Z”L. I well remember his face, close-up on American television. It was sometime before Camp David, and he was being challenged in some way, of course, being accused of “intransigency”. Quietly furious, yet dignified, Prime Minister Begin stated in no uncertain terms “We are a sovereign nation”. Since those days, Israel is increasingly treated as a vassal of the United States. It is in need of a complete overhaul of it’s political system. How that will come about, or if it is even possible, I’m not sure. But if she is to have any hope of survival as a sovereign nation, Israel needs to be independent of the United States, especially where her foreign policy is concerned.

Instead of wasting our time beating up on already heavily victimized Israelis, which is beginning to sound to me like those who blame Holocaust victims for getting on the trains (what would YOU do if you were clearly outgunned by Nazis and their collaborators, those guns being trained not only on yourself, but on your grandparents and your children, and you knew most if not all of your neighbors would turn you in if you escaped??) — ahem, I digress — I suggest we look to those who’s energies are directed aggressively towards a solution. Specifically, Professor Paul Eidelberg of “The Foundation for a Constitutional Democracy” has some ideas. He is clear in the need for Israel to achieve an independent foreign policy, and has some ideas on how it can be done.

Link: http://www.foundation1.org/

Another idea man, MK Benny Elon, has some workable proposals. These ideas are not brand-new. But Rabbi Elon notes the daily displays of suicidal insanity by Hamas demonstrates for all the world the non-viability of a Palestinian state. He calls for the dismantlement of the refugee camps, the rehabilitation of the refugees, for Gaza Arabs to have Egyptian passports and be taken in by Egypt, and for the West Bank Arabs to have Jordanian passports, for the responsibility for their well being to be assigned to the Jordanian government, and to stop financing such masters of misery as UNRWA, to discontinue UNRWA’s mandate. These proposals are receiving positive responses, even from leftist parties such as Kadima, as well as the US.





R’ Elon has an established record of meaningful solidarity with the victims of the Gush Katif and Amona expulsion victims. He stood with them, suffering right alongside them in their tragically failed efforts to save their homes and communities.

To Ron Grandinetti, don’t count on Fox News being fair and balanced for long. Even now, the language used when reporting on Muslim Terrorism has changed. Why? The Saudi’s have bought a 5% share. Saudi oil money is polluting the political landscape, as the increasingly difficult financial circumstances we in the West find ourselves in encourages the spineless among us to bow and scrape in order to recapture petrodollars.

Best to all true lovers of true peace,

Ellie Katz of Schmoozing with Elya & Ellie Katz

From Schmoozing with Elya & Ellie Katz

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THIS DAY April 15

Posted by Shiva on April 14, 2009

British troops liberate Bergen-Belsen
April 15 1945: British troops have entered the German concentration camp of Bergen-Belsen.
Inside the camp the horrified soldiers found piles of dead and rotting corpses and thousands of sick and starving prisoners kept in severely overcrowded and dirty compounds.
Belsen, near Hanover in Germany, is the first concentration camp to be liberated by the British. Details of the conditions inside are likely to horrify a public which until now has only heard limited descriptions from the camps in Poland freed by the Red Army.
The first British soldiers who entered Bergen-Belsen have described seeing a huge pile of dead, naked women’s bodies within full view of several hundred children held at the camp.
The gutters, too, were filled with dead bodies.
One of the reasons the Germans agreed to surrender Belsen was because so many of the inmates were diseased. There was no running water in the camp and there were epidemics of typhus, typhoid and tuberculosis.
There were thousands of sick women, who should have been in hospital, lying on hard, bare bug-ridden boards. Of the 1,704 acute typhus, typhoid and tuberculosis cases, only 474 women had bunks to sleep on.
There were fewer male prisoners, but they were also kept in severely overcrowded and dirty conditions.
One of the British senior medical officers, Brigadier Llewellyn Glyn- Hughes, told the Reuters news agency he saw evidence of cannibalism in the camp. There were bodies with no flesh on them and the liver, kidneys and heart removed.
He said their first priority was to remove the dead bodies from the camp. He was told some 30,000 people had died in the past few months.
He said typhus had caused far fewer deaths than starvation. Men and women had tried to keep themselves clean with dregs from coffee cups. Medical supplies were severely limited – there were no vaccines, or drugs and no treatments for lice.
The only food available for the prisoners was turnip soup and British guards had to fire over the heads of prisoners to restore order among those desperate to get at the food stores.
Those prisoners who were too weak to get up and collect their food went without and died.
The camp commandant, who was described as “unashamed” at the camp conditions, has been placed under arrest.
The camp commandant, Josef Kramer, was found guilty at Luneberg of war crimes and hanged in December 1945.

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husayni, the Chairman of the Arab Higher Committee collaborated with Nazi Germany during the Second World War. In 1940, he asked the Axis powers to acknowledge the Arab right, “to settle the question of Jewish elements in Palestine and other Arab countries in accordance with the national and racial interests of the Arabs and along the lines similar to those used to solve the Jewish question in Germany and Italy.”
He spent the second half of WWII in Germany making radio broadcasts exhorting Muslims to ally with the Nazis in war against their common enemies.
In one of these broadcasts, he said,
“Arabs, arise as one man and fight for your sacred rights. Kill Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history, and religion. This saves your honor. God is with you
The Mufti’s knowledge about the Holocaust while living in Nazi Germany has been debated with the Mufti himself denying any such knowledge after the war. Testimony presented at the Nuremberg trials, however, accused the Mufti of not only having knowledge about the holocaust but of also actively encouraging the initiation of extermination programs against European Jews. Adolf Eichmann’s deputy Dieter Wisliceny testified during his war crimes trial in 1946 that … “The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan… He was one of Eichmann’s best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chambers of Auschwitz.”
When the Red Cross offered to mediate with Adolf Eichmann in a trade prisoner-of-war exchange involving the freeing of German citizens in exchange for 5,000 Jewish children being sent from Poland to the Theresienstadt concentration camp, Husseini directly intervened with Himmler and the exchange was cancelled. The letters sent on June 28, 1943 to Hungarian and Romanian governments, allied to Nazi Germany at the time, urging them to refuse to save Jewish refugees can be found here.
Among the sabotage al-Husayni organized was an attempted chemical warfare assault on the second largest and predominantly Jewish city in Palestine, Tel Aviv. Five parachutists were sent with a toxin to dump into the water system. The police caught the infiltrators in a cave near Jericho, and according to Jericho district police commander Fayiz Bey Idrissi, “The laboratory report stated that each container held enough poison to kill 25,000 people, and there were at least ten containers.”.
In his memoirs after the war, Husayni noted that “Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish problem in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: ‘The Jews are yours.’”
Recent Nazi documents uncovered in the German Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Military Archive Service in Freiburg by two researchers, Klaus Michael Mallmann from Stuttgart University and Martin Cüppers from the University of Ludwigsburg, indicated that in the event of the British being defeated in Egypt by Field Marshal Erwin Rommel’s Afrika Korps the Nazis had planned to deploy a special unit called Einsatzkommando Ägypten to exterminate Palestinian Jews and that they wanted Arab support to prevent the emergence of a Jewish state.
In their book the researchers concluded that, “the most important collaborator with the Nazis and an absolute Arab anti-Semite was Haj Amin al-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem”.According to the German researchers Husayni was a prime example of how Arabs and Nazis became friends out of a hatred of Jews. Al-Husseini had met several times with Adolf Eichmann, Adolf Hitler’s chief architect of the Holocaust

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